Trivera's AI Deep Dive for Digital Marketers

Marketing Lessons from the Life and Death of AJ Bombers

Trivera Interactive Season 3 Episode 1

In this episode of the Trivera Deep Dive, Chip and Nova explore the unforgettable rise—and graceful exit—of AJ Bombers, the Milwaukee burger joint that became a national case study in social media marketing. From peanut bombs to tweetups, AJ Bombers turned followers into fans and engagement into real-world impact. But what happens when the founder steps back, the platforms fade, and the novelty wears off?

Join Chip and Nova as they unpack four critical lessons every marketer should learn from AJ Bombers’ journey:
✅ How community is the strongest brand currency
✅ Why platforms are tools, not foundations
✅ When Brands built on personality need a succession plan
✅ Where Nostalgia IS...and isn't...the right strategy

Whether you're building a brand, managing change, or just love a good burger story, this Deep Dive is for you.

Read the Blog: Marketing Lessons from the Life and Death of AJ Bombers

[Nova]
What happens when a brand that once defined a moment suddenly disappears? 

[Chip]
If you were there for AJ Bombers' meteoric rise, you felt it. If you weren't, its story still hits home. 

[Nova]
Because this isn't just about burgers or tweets. It's about how brands capture lightning, and what happens when that lightning slips away. 

[Chip]
Stick around, because in today's Trivera Deep Dive, we unpack the rise, the fall, and the marketing lessons hidden in both. [upbeat music] 

[Narrator]
Welcome to Trivera's AI Deep Dive podcast, hosted by Chip and Nova, our AI co-hosts. Together, they transform top marketing insights from our blogs, articles, and events into actionable strategies you can use. Ready to dive in? Let's get started. 

[Chip]
Welcome back to the Deep Dive. I'm Chip. 

[Nova]
And I'm Nova. 

[Chip]
Today, we're taking a really close look at a fascinating source. It's a blog post from our very own Trivera founder, Tom Snyder, titled Marketing Lessons from the Life and Death of AJ Bombers. 

[Nova]
That's right. Tom's blog post, it really reflects on the recent news that AJ Bombers, which is, I mean, a true Milwaukee institution, will be closing its doors at the end of 2025. 

[Chip]
Yeah. 

[Nova]
And for many, it's definitely a bittersweet moment, stirs up a lot of nostalgia, you know? 

[Chip]
Mm-hmm. 

[Nova]
But for those of us really immersed in the marketing world, as Tom so astutely points out, it's way more than just a local eatery closing down. 

[Chip]
Much more. 

[Nova]
It's a living case study. I'd even say a masterclass in how brands rise, and yeah, sometimes fall within this ever-shifting digital landscape. 

[Chip]
So our mission today is really to extract the most important nuggets of knowledge from Tom's reflections. 

[Nova]
Okay. 

[Chip]
We'll dive into what AJ Bombers taught us about brand-building, especially during those early, kind of Wild West days of social media. 

[Nova]
Right, back then, at the beginning. 

[Chip]
And what new, often surprising, insights its closure now offers. It's just a compelling story, isn't it? 

[Nova]
Mm-hmm. 

[Chip]
About pioneers, genuine community, and the dynamic evolution of digital strategy itself. 

[Nova]
And it's a story our founder knows really intimately. I mean, he has a personal history with that very spot. 

[Chip]
Oh, really? 

[Nova]
Yeah, going way back to his former career as an on-air personality at a local radio station, that location was occupied by a bar called McGillicuddy's. He once did a live broadcast from there on a snowy St. Patrick's Day. 

[Chip]
Oh, wow. 

[Nova]
And then years later, he watched that same corner become this, like, unexpected hub for social media innovation. 

[Chip]
That's amazing context. 

[Nova]
And Triverra, you know, being one of the very first agencies really advocating for social media as a powerful brand-building tool, well, Triverra and Joe Sorge with AJ Bombers, they were kind of riding that same early wave together, around 2009. 

[Chip]
Right, those early days. 

[Nova]
Yeah, we were running our Social Media University events back then, showing businesses how they could truly harness this new power. And AJ Bombers, they were a prime example of it playing out in real time. 

[Chip]
So let's dig into Tom's blog. In his first lesson, community is the strongest brand currency. 

[Nova]
What's really fascinating here, and Tom emphasizes this, is that AJ Bombers didn't just build a following, they built a tribe. 

[Chip]
A tribe, I like that. 

[Nova]
They meticulously fostered genuine community, and it wasn't accidental at all. 

[Chip]
Absolutely not. They hosted these things called Tweetups. 

[Nova]
Right. 

[Chip]
Which literally brought Milwaukee's early Twitter community together in person. Can you imagine how novel that was back in, like, 2009? 

[Nova]
Totally groundbreaking for the time. 

[Chip]
And fans were actively encouraged, you know? Post ideas for new menu items, share photos of their meals. Then famously leave their Twitter handles on those graffiti-covered walls. And the founder, Joe Sorge's engagement was just incredibly authentic. He wasn't just broadcasting. He was really creating this two-way dialog, made people feel heard, seen, genuinely part of something. 

[Nova]
And this went way beyond just, you know, good vibes. It led to measurable, actual tangible results. 

[Chip]
Like what? 

[Nova]
Well, for instance, one social promotion they ran boosted sales of a featured item by a remarkable 30%. 30%. 

[Chip]
Wow, that's significant. 

[Nova]
And then there's the legendary Barry Burger, that peanut butter-topped creation. 

[Chip]
Oh yeah, I remember hearing about that. 

[Nova]
It became this cult favorite. 

[Chip]
Yeah. 

[Nova]
Named after a regular customer who didn't just suggest it, but actively championed it on Twitter. 

[Chip]
That's incredible buy-in. 

[Nova]
Totally. Tom himself used AJ Bombers as this living, breathing case study for his clients, just demonstrating the real-world power of that kind of social engagement. 

[Chip]
Okay, so here's where it gets really interesting for you listening right now. 

[Nova]
Mm-hmm. 

[Chip]
This goes beyond just piling up likes and impressions. It powerfully shows that inviting your audience into the creative process, whether it's for a new product, a content series, maybe event programming, that builds incredibly deep, genuine loyalty. 

[Nova]
Yeah, that co-creation aspect. 

[Chip]
Right. When you let people see their fingerprints on your brand, when they feel that sense of co-ownership, that inclusion just naturally fosters this profound loyalty. 

[Nova]
It's about giving them a stake in it. 

[Chip]
It's about creating a clear, visible path for customers... 

[Nova]
Mm-hmm 

[Chip]
... not just to consume what you build, but to actively influence what you build or offer next. 

[Nova]
And that visibility was absolutely key. It wasn't just asking for ideas. It was the visible, almost immediate implementation that kind of shocked and delighted customers, you know? It transformed them from just passive fans into active co-creators. 

[Chip]
Right. 

[Nova]
And that turns those transactional relationships into real emotional bonds, which, let's be honest, is the strongest brand currency you can possibly cultivate. 

[Chip]
Okay, so that strong community-driven foundation was obviously incredibly powerful. But it also depended pretty heavily on the tools of the time, didn't it? 

[Nova]
Yes, the tools. 

[Chip]
Which kind of brings us neatly to our second crucial lesson here. Tom reminds us that platforms, k-... they're just tools. 

[Nova]
Mm-hmm. Tools, not the foundation itself. 

[Chip]
Exactly. Back in 2010, he even wrote The Complete Idiot's Mini-Guide to Real Time Marketing with Foursquare. 

[Nova]
I remember that. 

[Chip]
And AJ Bombers was featured prominently in it. 

[Nova]
Hmm. 

[Chip]
Which is just a testament to their early mastery of that platform. 

[Nova]
That's absolutely right. They weren't just on Foursquare, they were masters of it, remember that. 

[Chip]
Yeah. 

[Nova]
Offering free cookies for check-ins, these special badges for group visits, even unique rewards for the mayor of the location. 

[Chip]
Even the mayor, right. 

[Nova]
The person who checked in most frequently. It was smart, it was fun, and yeah, it was highly effective in driving foot traffic and engagement for a time. 

[Chip]
For a time. 

[Nova]
But then, as we've seen so many times in the digital world, Foursquare just kind of faded from relevance. 

[Chip]
And that's the real punchline, isn't it? When Foursquare lost its traction, AJ Bombers, well, they were forced to adapt their digital strategy. 

[Nova]
Had to pivot. 

[Chip]
But what Tom highlights is a pretty significant risk for any brand, is that their deep brand identity had become so intertwined with specific platforms like Foursquare and, yeah, to a lesser extent, Twitter. 

[Nova]
Right, they put a lot of eggs in that basket. 

[Chip]
It made them vulnerable when those platforms evolved or, you know, declined. 

[Nova]
So this raises a really important question for you, the listener. Think about this. If your primary platform, whether that's Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn, maybe even email, if it just disappeared tomorrow- 

[Chip]
Poof, gone 

[Nova]
... how would you continue to serve, support, and engage your audience? 

[Chip]
That's a scary thought for a lot of businesses. 

[Nova]
It is. And the practical application here is to build robust systems, not just individual posts or campaigns. Systems that preserve those critical customer relationships, even when the underlying platforms shift or vanish entirely. 

[Chip]
So you're saying step back from the specific channel. 

[Nova]
Exactly. Think strategically about how you'd connect with the same people, how you'd maintain that dialogue, deliver value, regardless of the particular tool available at that moment. It's about owning your audience relationship, not just renting it from a platform. 

[Chip]
Owning, not renting. I like that. A truly profound point. And speaking of owning that relationship, our third lesson kind of dives into the very human element of branding. 

[Nova]
Ah, the personality aspect. 

[Chip]
Yeah. Lesson three. Brands built on personality need a succession plan. In AJ Bombers' case, the brand's really unique voice, and its founder, Joe Sorge, they were largely one and the same, weren't they? 

[Nova]
Absolutely. He was the public-facing persona, that witty, engaging, authentic voice across every single digital channel. 

[Chip]
And that worked incredibly well. It created that unique, personal connection that resonated so deeply with their early community. 

[Nova]
It really did. However, Tom notes this critical transition point. When Joe and Angie Sorge stepped away from the day-to-day operations back in 2018- 

[Chip]
Okay 

[Nova]
... the brand tried to maintain that same personality, that same voice, but you know, without the same person actually at the helm. 

[Chip]
Right. And the product it sells, it stayed consistent. Those delicious burgers, the peanut bombs, they didn't change. 

[Nova]
Nope. Food was still good. 

[Chip]
But the voice, that vital, authentic connective tissue that made customers feel genuinely part of something special, truly seen and heard, that voice, well, it inevitably changed. 

[Nova]
Yeah, it had to. 

[Chip]
As Tom observes, it just never quite clicked in the same way with the new custodians. 

[Nova]
Yeah. 

[Chip]
The magic, it seemed, was really tied to the individual. 

[Nova]
So what does this all mean for you listening? It's about recognizing the immense power of individual personality in building a brand. 

[Chip]
Mm-hmm. 

[Nova]
But also understanding its inherent fragility. It can be a single point of failure, almost. 

[Chip]
That's a good way to put it. 

[Nova]
The practical step here is to proactively capture and meticulously document your brand's core voice, its underlying values, its distinctive tone, while it's still organic and deeply embodied by its founders or core team. 

[Chip]
So write it down. 

[Nova]
Essentially, yes. Whether you're scaling up, making new hires, or planning for long-term continuity, you need to create frameworks. Frameworks that make it possible for others to express the brand with that same authenticity, the same nuance, even if the original voice steps aside. 

[Chip]
You're trying to codify the magic. 

[Nova]
Exactly. Codify that critical identity so it isn't solely dependent on one single individual. This makes sure that the heart of your brand can keep beating strongly, no matter who's speaking for it on any given day. 

[Chip]
That's definitely a challenging but- 

[Nova]
Right. 

[Chip]
Yeah, essential task for any growing brand. 

[Chip]
Okay, now the final lesson from Tom's blog brings us kind of full circle, back to the present. Lesson four. When nostalgia is and isn't the right strategy. It's a look at what happens when the very essence of a brand, built on personality and platform, reaches its, well, twilight. 

[Nova]
Right. As the years went by, a lot of those early Tweetup attendees, they moved on. Life changes. 

[Chip]
Sure. 

[Nova]
Social media itself changed dramatically, and the novelty of, you know, tweeting your order or seeing your name on a wall, it eventually wore off for newer generations. 

[Chip]
Yeah, the shine faded a bit. 

[Nova]
AJ Bombers remained fun and familiar, no doubt, but maybe not particularly fresh or, uh, cutting-edge in the way it once was. 

[Chip]
So when the news of its impending closure finally broke... 

[Nova]
The outpouring of nostalgia was immediate and huge. 

[Chip]
Right. People flooded social media with stories, recalling their favorite birders, remembering leaving their Twitter handles on that wall. 

[Nova]
Mm-hmm. Lots of memories shared. 

[Chip]
But Tom points out this really poignant and recurring theme in those stories. One that should give every marketer pause, I think. 

[Nova]
Look at that. 

[Chip]
"I haven't been there in years." 

[Nova]
Oof. Yeah, that hits hard. It reveals a really crucial distinction about nostalgia, doesn't it? 

[Chip]
It really does. The brand is now, I think, brilliantly leaning into that nostalgia for its final send-off. 

[Nova]
Yeah, they're handling the closing well. 

[Chip]
They're reviving retired menu items, revisiting old claims to fame, inviting the community to help say goodbye in this really celebratory way. 

[Nova]
And as a strategy for a graceful closure, it absolutely works. 

[Chip]
Totally. 

[Nova]
Nostalgia in this specific context can beautifully honor a legacy, generate that final powerful wave of engagement, and yeah, drive significant revenue during a well-managed exit. 

[Chip]
But, and this is the critical nuance Tom makes very clear.... if the goal were long-term growth and sustained relevance. 

[Nova]
If they wanted to keep going. 

[Chip]
Exactly. This playbook, this deep dive into nostalgia, it needed to surface much, much sooner. 

[Nova]
Right. Used late in the game like this, nostalgia becomes a strategy for winding down. It's for a respectful conclusion, not for building up renewed momentum. 

[Chip]
It's the difference between a tribute and a revival. 

[Nova]
Precisely. When nostalgia is intentionally woven into a living, evolving brand story, when it's used to highlight, say, a foundational value or a unique origin point, that's when it truly reinforces current relevance and sparks renewed connection. 

[Chip]
Yeah. 

[Nova]
One use preserves memory. The other actively extends meaning and creates future relevance. Big difference. 

[Chip]
Okay, so the practical application for you listening is use nostalgia with clear intention. And if you want it to drive growth, use it early. 

[Nova]
Don't wait until the end. 

[Chip]
Don't wait until you're nearing the end of your run. Look back at those formative moments that originally earned that deep loyalty, those surprising anecdotes maybe, and then reimagine them for today's audience. 

[Nova]
How so? 

[Chip]
Well, maybe change the format, refresh the message, connect them to current trends somehow. Keep the soul, keep that authentic core, but allow it to grow, to evolve, and connect with new generations in new ways. 

[Nova]
Right. That's really how legacy becomes leverage for the future, not just, you know, a wistful memory of the past. 

[Chip]
We've covered their incredible journey and extracted these really crucial lessons. But for your brand's future, what's the ultimate enduring takeaway from AJ Bombers' full arc? We'll dive into that lasting legacy right after this. [upbeat music] 

[Webster]
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[Narrator]
Welcome back to Trivera's AI Deep Dive. Now, back to our conversation with Chip and Nova. 

[Nova]
So we've walked through these four incredible lessons. 

[Chip]
Yeah. 

[Nova]
But Tom's blog, it takes it even deeper when he discusses the AJ Bombers legacy. 

[Chip]
Right, the legacy itself. 

[Nova]
He argues its rise and fall wasn't a failure. In fact, far from it. It was instead a complete full arc, powerful demonstration of what a brand truly is. 

[Chip]
Exactly. He says it reminds us what a brand is. 

[Nova]
Yeah. 

[Chip]
And maybe just as importantly, what it's not. It's not just the peanut bombs, right? Or the lively Tweetups, or the engaging Foursquare badges, or even that quirky memorable tone of voice that made you feel like part of some inside joke. 

[Nova]
Those were the tactics. 

[Chip]
Those were brilliant innovative tools and tactics. They worked incredibly well for a specific time. But as Tom points out, they were not, in and of themselves, the brand. 

[Nova]
So what was the brand, according to Tom? 

[Chip]
Ah, what Tom really emphasizes is that the brand was the connection people felt. 

[Nova]
A feeling. 

[Chip]
Yes. It was that profound sense of belonging, that feeling of walking into a place and maybe being greeted by your Twitter handle on the wall, feeling seen, heard, and genuinely part of something alive, local, and authentically human. 

[Nova]
That deep emotional resonance. 

[Chip]
That's what built the enduring loyalty, created that powerful sense of community, and truly powered their momentum for so long. 

[Nova]
And as Tom concludes, that emotional connection, that underlying sense of belonging and community, that's what had to be preserved and adapted when the tools changed, when the trends faded, and when the founders themselves eventually moved on, because that truly is what the brand actually was and honestly what it will always be remembered for. 

[Chip]
Which brings us to the real pressing question Tom poses for every single business, doesn't matter the size or industry. 

[Nova]
Okay. What's the big question? 

[Chip]
As your business evolves, as your audience inevitably shifts, and as this endless parade of platforms and tactics comes and goes, will your core brand hold up? Will it still matter deeply to the people it's supposed to serve? 

[Nova]
Will it adapt and thrive with intention by continually nurturing those core connections, or will it peak, slowly fade into just fond nostalgia- 

[Chip]
Right 

[Nova]
... and ultimately be fondly memorialized in some fleeting social media thread 16 years from now? That's the challenge, isn't it, for every brand? 

[Chip]
It absolutely is. AJ Bombers may be going away, marking the end of an era, but this deep dive, it isn't just a eulogy. It's a powerful lesson from a real pioneer. 

[Nova]
And the truth is, Trivera has been here. We've been pioneering digital brand strategy, advising businesses on these very insights since before AJ Bombers' meteoric rise. 

[Chip]
That's a long time. 

[Nova]
It is. Our founder, Tom Snyder, he's been blogging about these critical insights since way back in 1998. And Trivera has been helping businesses navigate this evolving, often complex landscape for 29 years now. 

[Chip]
Wow. 

[Nova]
We were here then, helping brands understand this new world, and, well, we'll be here long after. 

[Chip]
So if you're listening, and maybe you're still banking your brand's future on what worked a decade ago. 

[Nova]
Or building your strategy on fleeting trends or those rented platforms we talked about. 

[Chip]
Take this powerful lesson from AJ Bombers to heart. Decide now to build your brand with a future in mind, a future where connection, authenticity, and adaptability are really paramount. 

[Nova]
Let's build a brand that grows with your audience, that evolves alongside their needs. 

[Chip]
Yes. 

[Nova]
Not one they simply remember fondly and then sadly forget. 

[Chip]
That's the goal. 

[Nova]
To learn more about how Trivera can help you build a brand that truly adapts and thrives, one that endures through every shift in the digital landscape, just visit trivera.com. 

[Chip]
And you can also explore more invaluable insights from our founder, Tom Snyder, right there on the Trivera blog. Lots of great stuff. 

[Nova]
Definitely worth checking out. 

[Chip]
We really hope this deep dive has given you some powerful, actionable insights to mull over. Until next time, keep learning, keep adapting, and most importantly, keep building those genuine connections that truly define a lasting brand. 

[Narrator]
Thanks for joining us on Trivera's AI Deep Dive with Chip and Nova. If you enjoyed this episode, you can find more and stay up to date with new episodes wherever you listen to podcasts, or find them on our website and our social media channels. And don't forget to visit us at trivera.com to learn how we can help take your marketing to the next level. Ready to talk? Reach out. We'd love to hear from you. See you next time.

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